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PostSubject: A warm goodbye from ALO   Wed 27 Apr - 13:59

Well, I'm here just to say a couple of words before probably completely retiring of LFS thanks to the unfair treatment I received.

The case is like that. After so long and successful career at Animal (and in general obviously) I decided to take a step forward and join team MRc so I could push to the limits and try improve the team together with you guys. (I also had proposals to join in past too while I was still at Animal) However, as I tried to apply, Bish luckily found something extremely important that I wouldn't even discover myself other way. He found that from the same computer I use (same IP address I think) some other LFS accounts were used for trolling. As you can imagine this shocked me at first as I couldn't imagine what could actually had happened. But later I realized that since I share my computer (and wheel obviously) with my little cousin, probably that's what happened and after a lot of my attempts, I got him to admit the truth. I don't blame him though because his age doesn't include the required maturity and the fault is all mine to allow him use my stuff at my absence. When I was with him he wasn't doing sh*t in front of me but he was trying to learn and improve. I was also letting him watch me driving next to me and explaining him what he should do to improve in order to be good driver one day. I was spending time with him since he was young because I believed that if he learned when young he could become great driver in the future. So, the truth seemed to be that he enjoyed trolling as well and the worst part is without telling me a thing. (he told that he wouldn't tell me because he was scared I would shout at him and don't let him use my wheel and pc anymore.)

Anyways, that's the case. I don't know every single detail of what he was doing because I don't wanna talk with him anymore yet, just to let him learn his mistake. However, the problem is that Bish banned my own account too, LEMEN. With this account I have made history and progress. I had 92% RT, 1:12.51 PB, tons of laps, tons of wins, tons of podiums, pole positions and a very big rank at MRc. I had never problems with anybody and I just had hard racing enjoying myself at the maximum. This account is now gone too thanks to Bish. (I definitely understand that Bish's experience can allow him to think many things but that won't stop me from explaining the real situation, whatever the outcome will be.) Well guys, I think you all know me very well all of these years and I also know most of you. I was sharing my motorsport and automotive enthusiasm with you and was having endless fun battling with top guys and improving my speed and racing. But now, thanks to this, it's all gone. Now you know everything and you can judge. If from what you've seen all over these years you think that I'm a split personality then you can think whatever you want. Everyone is free to believe whatever he prefers.

Whatever happens, thank you for all of these years of support and great racing to the limit. I hope I see you on track again 1 day.
 
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Wed 27 Apr - 21:10

It's so frustrating to get completely destroyed in 1 day after trying to make a step forward and join a new team. To get destroyed by something that happened in your back and by something you were not responsible for. If you want to judge ALO then judge from my drive in LFS for at least 3 years of constant racing and improving. Everyone that knows me will understand. So, I don't even deserve to keep driving anymore just in 1 day from nothing? That's what you think? A quality driver can be trashed like that by a newer guy just because of some "IP facts" ? I explained to you in detail what happened. And also even your facts are not complete. How you know who used that IP for? It could even be a machine in the same network. But it wasn't, I talked in detail about that and no need to repeat. Anyway, I want all guys to express their opinion and especially guys that are in LFS for years and know who I am. (not only newcomers) If you have any complain from me (ALO - LEMEN) then go ahead and tell me. I'm ALO (lemen) and nobody else and I have the bravery of expressing my opinion after being a good, experienced, clean and safe driver and also with 1 championship in my disposal. I hope this unfairness will find end one day. If you think ALO (lemen) is a trouble maker then go ahead and ban. (A trouble maker with 3 years + of driving experience, 92% RT, 1:12.51 PB, huge rank that even a lot admins don't have, reputation, 1 championship, numerous victories, podiums and pole positions and consistent performance. Just judge with your eyes open )
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 0:25

it is not necessary sad dude! I think your facts justified after much explanation! LEMEN good driver! Personally, I would add ...
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 1:19

Max,
Even if what ALO is saying is true how could he keep control off a full server if he cant control what is happening on his own PC.

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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 1:25

as if he had several admin accounts then, yes, and it's just a prank
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 9:15

At least could I have my account (lemen) back? Also, you are right guys, it was a big mistake to allow other guys apart from me only to use my stuff when I'm not there so, lesson learned. I was admin in Animal a long time with no issues so I know what it takes to help for a server's stable use but anyway I just asked for my account back. Lesson has obviously been learned and learned the very hard and painful way. If you don't want me to the team, it's ok. But when I'm the only user of my pc then you know who ALO (lemen) really is and for what is capable for Wink .

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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 10:25

I think you are sincere in your explanations. I saw you on the server mrc last night. I think you are telling the truth. Nevertheless I can not unban you, for it is bish to do it if he wants.

for your sake, it would be wise to put a password on your PC so that nobody can use it when you are not there.

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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 10:58

SAM Bish let's add ALO and observe
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 12:33

Thank you guys for your understanding. I can understand that it's hard for you as well because this is the internet and it's not easy to tell what's really happening but trust me. All of these years of racing, progress and devotion are not random. I was unlucky (due to my mistake sadly) but it's better to learn now. The problem was not that I didn't have pc password the problem was that he wanted to keep playing even when I had to leave the house and I told him alright you can play. This proved to be a deadly mistake that's not gonna get repeated again. Of course, I can accept any kind of observation, I have nothing to hide. And you now that I've nothing to hide from all of this year's racing. Thank you again and see you on track. Due to busy days I'll be back racing next week. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 13:53

I think we can leave you a chance to join the team and it depends if Bish is ok. but be aware that only Bish have the last word. For me, Bish has my full confidence.

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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 17:13

Alright. I fully respect this. Thanks for your time and understanding once again. I trust Bish as well, I was always seeing him when I was racing. He is active and always keeps the server nice and clean. I will respect any decision. Next week I'll be back on track hopefully and you will be able to see me and clear any doubts Smile . Happy racing.
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Thu 28 Apr - 17:57

well wait for the opinion of the incredible racer cheers Bish ...
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 12:59

Alright guys, back home. I just checked and my account (lemen) is still banned. Any progress? What has Bish decided? I can't wait to get back racing with you as normally. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 17:28

il tell you from the facts.  he is racing on his own account then disconnects and not even 5 minutes later his i.p address connects with another account which used a hack.
Plus there are are 2-3 other occasions where he connects with another account.
Max if you believe that his explanation is acceptable then that would that would not be said with the best interest of the team , cheaters damage a servers reputation greatly
If you read up on the terms of service from live for speed you will find that we are held accountable for our own accounts.
My opinion is always unbiased and as has been stated in the past i would ban my own mother if i caught her using hacks and i guarantee that this ban will not be lifted

The evidence is substantial against him. if there was a slight chance it was not him then i would not of banned but i am 100% certain it was him
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 18:39

bish wrote:
il tell you from the facts.  he is racing on his own account then disconnects and not even 5 minutes later his i.p address connects with another account which used a hack.
Plus there are are 2-3 other occasions where he connects with another account.
Max if you believe that his explanation is acceptable then that would that would not be said with the best interest of the team , cheaters damage a servers reputation greatly
If you read up on the terms of service from live for speed you will find that we are held accountable for our own accounts.
My opinion is always unbiased and as has been stated in the past i would ban my own mother if i caught her using hacks and i guarantee that this ban will not be lifted

The evidence is substantial against him. if there was a slight chance it was not him then i would not of banned but i am 100% certain it was him
You are stuck in your own theory and you ignore whatever I say spreading wrong blames and rumors. Everyone is entitled to his opinion and has the freedom to believe it but not to spit mud based on rumors. I answered to your topic here http://masterracecar.forumactif.com/t1679-information-regarding-lemen-ban . I told 100 times that the IP thing with 5 minutes HAPPENED OF COURSE because me and my cousin were using SAME PC, SAME WHEEL connected to SAME MODEM-ROUTER (SAME IP SAME ALL !!!!). I was driving with my account ALO (lemen) I had him watching me driving then I had to go out with friends (OUT OF MY HOME, I opened the door and walked out you know in the real world...) and let him STAY IN MY HOUSE and keep playing ! (not with my account. I logged it off with removing password) To get out of house you need SECONDS not even minutes. That's why probably you saw that with the 2-5 min interval ! Get it now? Sorry, for the aggression and frustration but you brought me to my limits with your stubborn conspiracy theories. What you wanna prove man? That such a driver like me enjoys crashing and racing? That I made such a "career" just to be a stupid retard crasher? I proved everything and why it happened and you just ignore. Have ALO (lemen) ever crashed or used speedhack? NO. Then why ALO (lemen) gets banned even after he proves everything? No sense. I just want to let me f@cking drive as well as I always did and nothing else. You are the only one preventing such a driver from racing. Let me drive and if you see any hacking/crashing (or whatever you want to see) ban me till the world ends... I'm starting to feel that some guys don't want competition and that's why you don't wanna see the truth. I can't give any other logical explanation. If I was a retarded crasher/hacker I would just go ahead make other accounts with other names or s**t and keep driving. The fact that I'm trying to clear this up says f@cking something... Anyway, do whatever you want man. You can be proud of getting good drivers out of LFS for nothing. I just hope 1 day to realize what you've actually done...
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 20:49

how is it a theory if i can prove what i am saying. You on the other hand cannot. Across multiple games/sims where i also admin some of the biggest teams the same happens with blaming it on a family member
Regardless of this anyway if it was me i would never let any family member use my pc - connection while they knowingly are going to use cheats

Most importantly it is on more that one occasion your ip came up. it was also linked to other accounts that had been crashing others
I dont take any pleasure in having to ban anyone but in line with the rules i must do so. Please do not undertake me for some kid/teen that is clueless. i have been doing this type of role for many years across multiple games
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 21:01

bish wrote:
how is it a theory if i can prove what i am saying. You on the other hand cannot. Across multiple games/sims where i also admin some of the biggest teams the same happens with blaming it on a family member
Regardless of this anyway if it was me i would never let any family member use my pc - connection while they knowingly are going to use cheats

Most importantly it is on more that one occasion your ip came up. it was also linked to other accounts that had been crashing others
Sadly, in my case I had zero info that he had intention to behave like that. He showed to me that he had interest to race and not to crash or cheat. I admit that I made a big mistake allowing him to use it while I was absent. I tried my best to clear this up but it seems hopeless. You obviously don't want to give me a chance to keep driving. The funny part is that you stubbornly wanna destroy such a good account like mine ,ALO (lemen), that I was only promoting good racing and never had any issue...
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 21:08

And also, in order to prevent any similar unfair and misunderstanding treatment to any other unlucky player/driver like me (that I'm fighting like a maniac for my obvious right) I'd like to suggest to any admin to think twice before using solely IP data to judge. (this can lead to huge mistakes like this case and in advance damage the quality of such a server like MRc) The majority of users (that live in the 21st century, I assume) are using shared computers and/or networks or even some may play from internet cafes or something. So, IP is never a solid evidence to move to such moves of huge importance. (you saw what happened even with me...).  The most solid data to judge is on track / in game behavior. As you can imagine IPs are not only numbers but behind them are humans and souls hiding and you can never identify what's actually happening. I think we're here to promote clean racing and to kill crashing/hacking/misbehaving. By destroying such great accounts (like mine) you are not promoting clean racing but exactly the opposite. I'd like to say these things as well hoping that I may probably save any other guys that had bad luck like me.
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Mon 2 May - 21:35

And finally, I'd like to say 1 last word to end this. Actually, I'd like to give a simple little piece of advice (or suggestion, if you like) to Bish and to anyone that is so total and relentless. We're all humans, we all make mistakes, we're here to make mistakes and learn from them so as not repeat them in the future, develop and finally be better humans. We all have the right to make a mistake and we all have the right to regret it and apologize for it and try fix it. I'd like to say to anyone that is or will be in a judging position in his life (real life or virtual life) that mistakes happen, s**t happens, we're all humans and not gods and if someone regrets it deserves a 2nd chance to show his true face. That happened with me as well, I made the mistake to share my pc, I regretted it, I wished it never happened and I tried my best to show what happened and my full intention to apologize and fix it, returning to my normal and clean racing life. I hope the best to everybody.
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Tue 3 May - 10:44

Also, I like you guys to know that Bish is chasing me everywhere to ban me. (he obviously uses the IP and stuff as pure excuses since I explained what happened. he just seems not to want competition in MRc) Because I'm sure that he's stuck to his ideas and he will never let me race with lemen I also made a new acc from zero with my name and my identity and all (I'm not hiding from anyone) and he banned it too. I used this acc to log in and contact with my friends since he was locking my topics and stuff. He doesn't even let me to make even a new start in LFS. He's stuck with it and maybe some other admins should express their opinions and stop this dictatorship madness... A lot good old racers are starting to complain about him too. I told million times what my mistake was, I corrected it, I know have an HDD password, BIOS start-up password and Windows User password to my computer and never let it run while I'm not in front. What MORE I need to do? I just want to f@cking race as successfully as always and NOTHING more... You see LFS has tons of servers but the fact that I'm still spending my time to clear this up for 1 server only says something...
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Tue 3 May - 10:59

And since it seems 100% pointless to understand me, can we make a deal? And I want every admin reading this to express their opinions. The deal will be to let me race (even with a new acc with 0 stats, I will accept it but I'd prefer my original account) and observe me. If you see anything bad from me then punish me. Simple enough? This is the most solid way to understand who ALO really is and stop the nonsense guesswork.

You see. You totally destroyed me for nothing and I accepted it. You rejected me from team, I accepted it. You banned my only and precious account (lemen), I accepted it. You don't wanna get it back, I accepted it. Just let me race or make a new beginning. You honestly think that I'm a f@@@@cking crasher and still use this forums after so many days to try explain??????? Where your logic went? You say bla bla bla things that I explained in details but I get ignored. That other people used family members as excuses bla bla bla. I don't care for other people. This happened to me end. And I believe that in your WHOLE admin career you never had a case like this. Yes I'm sure that an idiot crasher would crash and then may say it was something else but not a case where a good old driver would get into trouble for no reason. I told you why same I.P used after 2 mins. About multiple accounts, I told you too I think. He was using a lot of them so he can keep crashing after bans, obviously. That's what all stupid crashers do, nothing special. And he told me that he didn't make the accounts himself, a friend he has on facebook sent him a list of a lot accounts with same password so he was just changing account name. These guys seem to be organized to this s**t. Anyway, I told him to block and report this guy and never use them again.

So guys think what I told and answer me. Because Bish is banning me everywhere he sees me doesn't mean he has the final word.
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Tue 3 May - 11:10

Hello everybody ! I do not understand why ALO ban on 999 days is a serious prohibition okay, I understand that the team he has nothing to do, but why you banned ALO?
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Tue 3 May - 11:22

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Hello everybody ! I do not understand why ALO ban on 999 days is a serious prohibition okay, I understand that the team he has nothing to do, but why you banned ALO?
Hello MAX. That's the same question I have. 999 days for a trouble-free successful driver only because of his instict beliefs. He actually believes that because me and my cousin had same IPs sometimes, that it was me doing trouble (which is nonsense). He is using as an excuse that me (ALO) was logged in and after 2-5 min another account (of my cousin) logged in and messed. I explained to him why it happened numerous times, because a few times it happened me to be racing and had him watching and then I had to go for a walk with my friends and leave house but I let him stay in house and keep playing alone (not with my account of course). He obviously doesn't want to understand despite it doesn't make sense. Me (ALO) never caused any trouble and I don't understand what benefit can MRc get from ALO being banned. Even if I was a fatal crasher what would stop me from keep making trouble with having ALO banned? Does it make sense to you guys? For me, no.
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Tue 3 May - 14:22

I will remove you from the ban, but the promise that such a longer unique! that from your PC who then went and enjoyed your account., no hacking cheats and mods for this ban is forever
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PostSubject: Re: A warm goodbye from ALO   Tue 3 May - 14:53

maximoris46 wrote:
I will remove you from the ban, but the promise that such a longer unique! that from your PC who then went and enjoyed your account., no hacking cheats and mods for this ban is forever
Thank you to the maximum brother. You will never ever regret this decision. I feel so relieved now. I promise 100% that my pc will never be used by anyone and old good ALO will only be there to race with you. Thanks a lot and see you on track as usual. Smile

P.S: I just tried to log in (ALO - lemen) and the ban is still there. Any issues?

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