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PostSubject: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 12:08

We used to be like 2 or 3 players online when this guy [KZT]Panda started to manifest racism against me by writing rage-caps romanian swearing words.Calling me tigan (gypsie) and so on( i can translate those highlighted messages - they are highlighted because they are sent to me).I attached screenshot.That is unacceptable by today's common sense.
Also thanks [MRc]Simon for asisting me
http://i.imgur.com/qljRAFq.png


My lfs username: alendorian
My lfs driver name: LLego

his drivername: [KZT]Panda
his username: lavezzi


//later edit: did i post in wrong section?
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 12:49

Hi mate,

I will check replays later and act accordingly might not be till tomorrow though.

If another supad see's this post today please could you look into it.
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 13:06

I have uploaded the replay file here:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=92593487183950181881
if link isn;t working tell me and i will update it

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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 13:36

Hello racers! Panda I know for a long time, and he has the bad habit of writing offensive words in chat participants, even wrote nonsense in Russian. I warned him about this several times, but it seems he does not understand me. LLego me or other administrators TAKE ACTION!
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 13:49

HI,
I agree with you.
Yesterday also constantly challenged to insult
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 16:07

Hi Llego,

I agree that that sort off language can not be tolerated on the MRc servers & as Max & Dido have also had issues with lavezzi.

A ban is now in place

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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 18:34

First of all, I didn't mean for racism against him. Yes, I wrote some bad words in romanian to him, but I said him sorry more than 1 time. I told him that I will stop with the bad words against him but he decided to report me.
[MRC] Simon has joined to the server a few mins after the incident. I told him that I'm sorry for the bad words against Llego, and I will stop with that.
Now I see that you decided to ban me for 50 days!
I'm experienced & active driver on MRC server and 50 days is too much. I said sorry to him more than 1 time!
Can you please remove/reduce the ban?


@ dido : yesterday your team friend (i forgot his name.. [GD]G8.. something like that..) insulted me too in polish language. I reported him? no
2 days ago u decided to ban me 12hours for no reason, just because your [GD] friend told you to ban me for crashing. (you didn't check replay- just banned me immediately to make your friend happy)
I think you should check your behavior as a limad before you talk about other people's behavior.
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 19:09

buddy sympathetic.
Yesterday challenges him for 1 hour without a break.
even though the people voted against you , not once did I completed voting.
even though he was of the opinion that the wrong doing.
but I have for you, sympathy, I decided not to pry.

If you have been kicked from the server, it is not my only other players
I wanted to be with my colleague from the team, you are getting banned immediately.
just a little bit of respect that.
 use Google typing (Nika Adeishvili ) you'll know that this is a real driver formula ,several times medalist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH7mJ6KV5CE
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Mon 18 Jul - 20:04

Cool, I didn't know he is a real Formula driver Surprised
I'm just sorry for my behavior against other drivers.
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Tue 19 Jul - 7:40

Sometimes being an experienced driver isn't enough. Being an rational man who is responsible of his behavior is the right thing.
Also saying sorry after punching someone in the face and repeat this everyday (as I see others complain about you) is terribly wrong. I am not happy with banning people as LFS community shrinks down but it's the only way maybe in which you may control your words. I hope you have learnt something from this incident. See you on track.

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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Tue 19 Jul - 13:03

Hi Panda,

I thought I had banned you for 30 days I will check later & reduce to 30 if it was 50.

But remember any more comments or insults will result in a permanent ban.

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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Tue 19 Jul - 14:42

hello, if I can interject.

you may need to give him a chance and do not prohibit so long, I'm thinking that the prohibition jednidniowy should suffice, whereas he regrets what he has done
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Tue 19 Jul - 19:34

lavezzi

I decided to look back at chat logs to give you a chance but ban now stays at 50 days.

I gave up looking after 2 days 10th / 12th  june

Multiple instances off you insulting people using bad language in different languages.

Server  kicks you for language it picks up.

You admit to a revenge crash.

You tell a driver you will crash him next race.

All this happens in just 2 days.

(Admins I have the log on request but can not post it here due to the language not being suitable for the forum)

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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Wed 20 Jul - 18:57

with what simon has found in the server logs i fully support his decision. If this had been an isolated case then i know simon would have lowered the amount of time he was banned but we will always look into every racers history beforehand
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PostSubject: Re: Racism, insulting then trying to ban evade   Tue 16 Aug - 18:12

The only thing i don't understand is, there are rules posted... almost all servers have the same rules, it is a well known rule in most servers to be respectful and considerate and no insults to others. Do it once or do it ten times to me is the same thing, especially when the rules say it's not tolerated. The fact alone that insults or bad language is used, even if its to yourself but you decided to type it in chat, indicates lack of respect for the rules and others, or control. Insulting and cursing at others then apologizing time after time for me indicates both. Definitely not a desirable trait in a race car driver. 

 I will admit...when i'm online and someone is mouthing off, it really agitates me and my decision is very easy...bye bye. Because the rules say I can. No tolerance. I used to warn alot, now I click, but usually I 'kick' first, then explain. Do it again, Ban! The ones that bug me most are those who do it while an admin is right there!! I just don't get it, you already know what will happen.
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