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PostSubject: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Sat 22 Oct - 22:02

Not gonna help my case that I don't have a replay of the incident, but it may probably be recovered from the server, or provided by Monza.

On Thursday 20th October we were doing another 4-lap race at [MRc]Blackwood GTI. 1st lap of the race, we are 3-wide on the back straight with Reject, myself and another guy. Monza is probably 3-4 car lengths in front, all by himself. I am on the inside, but coming to T3 the Skoda-skinned guy massively misses his braking point and crashes into Monza. Monza subsequently misses the corner, rejoins, and then immediately bans me for 12 hours.

Needless to say, there has been no discussion between him and me or anyone else. Just a ban on the spot.

I come back today (Saturday, 22nd), and ask Monza if he wants to apologize for his mistake. His immediate response is "You crashed me" and another 12-hour ban.

I take a serious issue with this kind of behaviour. Myself and Monza have had a lot of very clean and hard battles, and he has never complained about my driving. I believe there is some mutual respect, and we genuinely have fun racing each other and having an occasional chat. He has [recently?] got some admin rights, and he has put them to good use quickly banning extreme crashers, but he has always issued them prior warnings, and only banning when those guys failed to behave reasonably.

Therefore, if there is a chance to recover a replay of the incident, or a message log, that will clearly show who has had contact with whom, I kindly ask the senior admins to review the incident and also Monza's subsequent actions. As of now, I completely disagree with being blamed for something I had taken no part in, and the subsequent 12h ban for initiating a conversation about the case is totally inacceptable.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Sat 22 Oct - 23:37

hi guy! yes there was a nuisance; I also do not understand the behavior of Monza !? but I think that Simon will understand this and take the right decision
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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Sun 23 Oct - 1:35

Hi Sainted,

You are 100% correct you should not have been banned once never mind twice I apologise on behalf off MRc for that.

Monza approached me a few days ago about giving up his rights I think this could be the best cause off action but I will speak to him when I see him next.

In the mean time mate if you see Monza in game point him to this link & if u get banned pm me I will sort it ASAP.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Sun 23 Oct - 1:50

Monza,

I have had to remove your rights as you tried to ban another limad.

Oct 20 19:41:07 Monza^L voted to ban B2^JÏ ICeleritas^L (RussianAttack96^L) [1/7] (press 1)
Oct 20 19:41:09 Speed 1 (kmph) - Rejekt : 162.13 (XRG)
Oct 20 19:41:16 B2^JÏ ICeleritas : ^LMonza - ok thats i will report you
Oct 20 19:41:16 Monza : ^LB2^JÏ ICeleritas - shut you face
Oct 20 19:41:18 MLADENOVIC : ^Lsorry
Oct 20 19:41:21 B2^JÏ ICeleritas : ^Lits enough
Oct 20 19:41:23 Vote cancelled
Oct 20 19:41:24 Good split 1 - Sejm : 0:30.20 (XFG)
Oct 20 19:41:25 Great split 1 - ^s^s skar : 0:30.08 (XFG)
Oct 20 19:41:26 B2^JÏ ICeleritas : ^Lyou will lose your rights
Oct 20 19:41:30 Best split 1 - ^s^s skar : 0:30.08 (XFG)
Oct 20 19:41:31 Monza : ^LB2^JÏ ICeleritas - sure
Oct 20 19:41:32 [MRc]Digital_HR : ^LMonza and Celeritas
Oct 20 19:41:41 B2^JÏ ICeleritas : ^L[MRc]Digital_HR - monza wanted to ban me
Oct 20 19:41:41 [MRc]Digital_HR : ^Lyou are giving all wrong  example
Oct 20 19:41:47 Speed 2 (kmph) - Rejekt : 189.01 (XRG)
Oct 20 19:41:49 ^s^s skar : ^Lyes!
Oct 20 19:41:56 [MRc]Digital_HR : ^Lof what admins should behave and act
Oct 20 19:41:59 [MRc]Digital_HR : ^Ldont argue

Digital HR nice work mate trying to calm it down

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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Sun 23 Oct - 1:58

Simon,

Thank you for the prompt response. I trust you are more than capable of resolving this issue.

I am quite surprised by Monza's actions, as prior to the incident he was coming across as a very decent and reasonable bloke. I have no hard feelings towards him, as I am a great example of how short-tempered people can be, but I am a firm believer in trying to keep your head cool at all times.

From my side, as long as I don't get banned simply for having the front row view on someone else's mess, the matter is resolved.
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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Sun 23 Oct - 23:58

More on the issue, although not related to MRc.

Monza is clearly on some agenda. Just met him at AA, and he immediately starts ranting "EAT MY s**t, LIAR" (in CAPSLOCK). Gets kicked for his language, comes back, calls me a "complained, blocker, crasher", and initiates a vote, which gets some support from guys I've never seen before...
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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Mon 24 Oct - 10:42

Hi Sainted.

Monza is no longer linked to MRc I have removed his admin rights if i was you I would post on the AA forum. As it looks like you might have future problems with him.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Tue 25 Oct - 0:20

Simon,

Interestingly enough, he said he lost his rights only because of me.

I have just entered a race at AA, he crashed me twice within 1 lap on purpose, openly saying he will crash the hell out of me. Attached are some of my humble attempts to have a meaningful conversation with him.

Anyone's gonna miss him?
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PostSubject: Re: Banned by Monza, blamed for other person's mistake   Tue 25 Oct - 4:03

Well dude,

   That's a rough situation. I can only recommend you save the replays of your interactions with him in whatever server you are in and report it to the Admins of those servers every time.
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