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Star Man
Posts : 64 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-03-07 Country : Italy
| Subject: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-19, 10:17 pm | |
| I removed all because I don't want to be a source of discord
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-19, 10:36 pm | |
| All i can say on this subject is that it can be understandable to be frustrated and say that,i wouldnt have took it personally but in the context of ' thats and idiotic thing to do' .. also best to warn and then use other measures before handing a ban out..
Warn+explain then if continues it warrants kick then if continues ban
i wouldnt of took it personally but as i say it must of been frustrating to have a qual restarted by someone thats just joined the server | |
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Star Man
Posts : 64 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-03-07 Country : Italy
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-19, 10:52 pm | |
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skswat Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 1444 Reputation : 26 Join date : 2010-02-07 Age : 32 Country : Slovakia
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-19, 11:47 pm | |
| I was talking to Laimis too. He said you performed multiple restarts... true or not? From screenshots... I dont know why Needweed unbanned him. Just because he asked to unban... its weird.
Example: If someone crashing/cheating on server and got ban for 999 days and ask you to unban, would you unban him if he say to you that he was good boy? Of course NOT! Without proper evidence (reason from admin who banned, replay, log) you have no reason to unban banned player. -> This applies to every MRc Limad.
Messages from MRc Timo....WTF...No sense. Better if I wont comment this.
Maybe ban was too quick and kick would be better, because as you said you restarted by mistake and you dont know in what lap was Laimis. Maybe in quick hotlap.... it makes every player angry and can say bad words to admin who restarted. We are all human. Maybe explanation that restart was made by error would be enough.
Thats from my side. | |
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MousePower!
Posts : 34 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-02-01 Age : 32 Country : Malbork, Poland
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 12:43 am | |
| I unbanned him, because he please me. We know him all and he said me what was happened. I didnt know about idiots or something because he didnt told me that, i only know about ban for asking "Why you restarted". That's all. I dont have S2 so i cant join to S2 servers, Laimiss want after unban talk with him but he banned him again. So i only gived them chance to talk about it. And Star Man dont change my words next time. Because i only asked you, and you talking about dont respect and other things which you took from space.... Swat@ I had earlier situations like that but i dont unbanning noone, it was first time. Its easy talking about somebody and forgot about "our" mistakes. Star man after my question start ragging and telling me what to do, giving me orders etc. I said him, if he think he was right, he should ban him next time. SIMPLE and i confirmed. Now it big case about 12 hours ban. I dont want fighting here or something.. but i trying to defense my action .. BTW: I have good memory.... And if i start banning all people who call me "idiot" on server our Ban List will be 213 times longer than now. | |
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Star Man
Posts : 64 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-03-07 Country : Italy
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 9:18 am | |
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Star Man
Posts : 64 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-03-07 Country : Italy
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 9:29 am | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 9:53 am | |
| i agree with swat on that someone can only come to there own conclusion from reading the logs and watching replay.. I have done so and heres my conclusion
Firstly he was kicked for saying noob why u restart which in my eyes isnt an kickable offence
second when laimiss says well dont restart the reply from Starman is I will restart when i want which isnt really the reply from someone that accidently restarted
after this one racer on the server then disconnects due to another restart and its then that laimiss says idiot and disconnects.. We have to remember that the servers are here to offer a service to racers of lfs and if we enter a server it doesnt mean we can disrupt whats already happening (race or qual) we need to ask if its ok to restart or as we do on fbm a restart is by vote only after a lap as been made
I truefully see that this incident was started by the restart from star man and also that i can understand laimiss reaction.
My conclusion is not based on laimiss history of being with the team and is made by seing the incident in black and white in the log files..
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MousePower!
Posts : 34 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-02-01 Age : 32 Country : Malbork, Poland
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 9:54 am | |
| What you talking about, you are so delicate or what ? I really dont understand you, I CAN'T ASK YOU ABOUT NOTHING ? And of course Laimiss and guy which was on server told me you banned him without warns/kicks in 1 second, so i dont know nothing now and who is right. Im off this discussion and i will not writing in this post. I dont want waste time for assumptions and suspicions. We talking about it 20 hours and this ban was 12 hours. - Quote :
- I will restart when i want
Star Man our little dictator ? BTW : Someone may UNLOCK [MRc] RallyX server because its locked by password which i dont know.... | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 9:58 am | |
| il unlock it for you,im saying that the ban on laimiss was wrong and i think you need to take time to read things proper..
What in my post gives you the assumption that im delicate..also where in my post does it say anything against what you did | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 10:06 am | |
| Rallyx unlocked
also its a topic under discussion still has if there are errors done by someone then they learn from it..It is the job of an supad/admin to say when and why things are wrong. but im going to say you have to stop assuming that im sensitive for some reason..im a lot more professional thinking than you seem to think i am and am never ever sensitive on any subject | |
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MousePower!
Posts : 34 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-02-01 Age : 32 Country : Malbork, Poland
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 10:10 am | |
| BISHY I talking to STAR MAN about delicate, not to you It is misunderstanding. | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 10:12 am | |
| no probs i assumed you meant me as its exactly what you said to me recently,my appologys
Also the rallyx server is now unlocked,check it for me to make sure if you will | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 10:15 am | |
| SO final conclusion is that starman shouldnt kick/ban so hastily and also think of the racers already on a server regardless of if they are a team member | |
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MousePower!
Posts : 34 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-02-01 Age : 32 Country : Malbork, Poland
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 10:19 am | |
| Thank you, its unlocked now OFC no probs, it was mistake. I started typing before you posted, and i finished after. I take one quote from your reply and i forgot add headline to who im writing so you may take it personally. | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 11:06 am | |
| no probs mate.happy racing | |
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skswat Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 1444 Reputation : 26 Join date : 2010-02-07 Age : 32 Country : Slovakia
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 12:47 pm | |
| Big deal just for minor thing. Ban also already expired, so... close this. | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 12:50 pm | |
| its not the point about the ban being over mate,if there is a lesson to be learnt then its important for them to learn it.otherwise we end up with many instances of it happening | |
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Timps20
Posts : 2 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2011-06-01 Age : 33 Country : Estonia
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 6:02 pm | |
| Hi As i have seen from the posts above, my name is mentioned, so i feel i have to post here. In my opinion, Star Man made a wrong decision by banning laimiss. For example: its all hypothetical, so no paralleels here... Lets presume that for example DriverGR(1st name that came in mind) is racing in server, but using different name, like racer123 or whatever, then Star Man comes, "accidentally" pressing ctrl Q and restarts the quali, then driverGr calls him a noob(again, its an example, names doesnt play role here) in angriness, and then star man kicks/bans him......The Point is that u should watch who ur banning/kicking in !pl or somewhere else, or see the persons lap times/safety rating etc. Dont rush with your decisions.......It is fustrating when u r on fast lap and someone restarts quali, like mentioned before, or when u have just finished warming tyres etc..... But what consernes my in game chat with Star man, If needed, im sorry, but everything i said, had smile in the end, so no need to be offended, life goes on, no worries.... Hope u get my point, case closed.... Reminder: the example is fictional, DriverGR was the first name in Mrc that i remebered, so no offence, m8... | |
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DriverGR Server Supad/Forum Admin, Event Coordinator
Posts : 149 Reputation : 7 Join date : 2009-03-07 Country : Germany
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 7:15 pm | |
| you like me | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-20, 8:30 pm | |
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Star Man
Posts : 64 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-03-07 Country : Italy
| Subject: WTF I done? 2012-03-24, 9:39 pm | |
| LOL too much words and time around this,I apologize to everyone,and the only one right emoticon that reflects atm my mood is I don't wanna to take the weeds in MRc. | |
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bish Founder, Team owner, Server Supad/Forum Admin
Posts : 3175 Reputation : 109 Join date : 2011-07-28 Age : 42 Country : united kingdom
| Subject: Re: Is this the correct behavior in a team? 2012-03-24, 9:45 pm | |
| - Star Man wrote:
LOL too much words and time around this,I apologize to everyone,and the only one right emoticon that reflects atm my mood is I don't wanna to take the weeds in MRc. yeah all done and finished now,one question what does this mean " I don't wanna to take the weeds in MRc ",just me being inquisitive - just clicked on i think - you dont want to take weed in mrc.== | |
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Star Man
Posts : 64 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2012-03-07 Country : Italy
| Subject: Google translator 2012-03-24, 11:07 pm | |
| I think "Google Translator" is a liitle bit complicated sometimes. Perhaps the right word was : darnel or discord so.. I don't wanna put darnel/discord in Mrc. It's correct? | |
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