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PostSubject: regarding saftey on servers   Wed 22 Feb - 19:52

hi guys and girls

im writing this as requested by a number of racers that use our servers and the subject is one i know we have discussed before but il honour them asking and write again,its concerning that they feel there isnt a server that caters for for the more experienced racers,i dont mean the super fast but racers within at least 1.15s and less,they spend there time on the servers mainly dodging people that are being lapped or crashed.
i know that all people must have the chance on the servers but ive got to admit that seing how things have been it is a real problem for them..we have seen some off the more faster racers come and use the server when things have been quiet and there has been many racers that didnt use our servers also come and race,but they did speak concerns over the subject

the !ex limit doesnt really seem to work well as its easy to gain if new account as your 2nd lap is new pb and then one after most likely new pb which all add to !ex


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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 10:57

fully agree whit you BISH....SAM ,when you come online please read this...my proposal is to you introduce us a primary rule for any who aplly from now to speak english...you cant be a limad if you cant comunicate well whit ppl and is rood to other racer to speak other language,becouse they mat thing you talk shh or plan some king of ban them...so...i m gonna be short...i was have a little discution to a new limad today and i ask him nicely to speak english on server...no bid deal...we not fight and anything...
hope you put that in apply requerement,becouse out new limad said to me....I DONT FIND THAT IN !RULES Laughing


so whit that said i want back in the team....whit your aproval SAM and DRVERGR,couse i have a kindergarden to look after...but im good of this Smile


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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 11:04

i agree cristina we have to understand everybody,and especially when limads should be helping people...

its amazing you have the patience with new limads 10-20mins on server to teach them
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 14:44

Hello,

First off a big sorry for the English translated by Google ...
My English skills alone are not sufficient to inform the translator not what moves me to once again here what I may say .... Smile
In my opinion, do much good to very good driver with a big bow to the server because they know in advance exactly, that are not so many talented drivers, and also on this server crashers go ....
Well, I think that I am a (due to 6-year experience)'m good driver who is also a daily basis and would like to visit your server riders.
Unfortunately, I have repeatedly seen that many riders bent on (especially when starting and winding in the first!) They are not able to enter the car or in a consciously deliberate.
I think the reason it is slow to limit the time an experience of, say, 50? Incorporate ex and a limit of PB 1:14:50 to 1:15:00, so at least the greatest part of the driver is not as serious about a drive to FBM and are therefore excluded to make good times.
In my opinion, the server runs more than good, so that these limitations are no restrictions on the server utilization in the future will have.
Ok, I think I have anything to say what I had to say about it and would love it if this is implemented soon, in fact, so the fun will be better again

PS: What I also recently noticed increased, the number of drivers for several hours on the server are not down. That annoys people on the course to join the world want the server to be stopped but the server is full!
Maybe you could leave in the LFS config add a line to the driver that we say one hours without getting involved in racing have to be kicked out automatically by the system. I think that it is only the least aware that by its absence, other not to drive, because full-server

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 14:56

RoAdRuNnEr(The Real) wrote:
Hello,

First off a big sorry for the English translated by Google ...
My English skills alone are not sufficient to inform the translator not what moves me to once again here what I may say .... Smile
In my opinion, do much good to very good driver with a big bow to the server because they know in advance exactly, that are not so many talented drivers, and also on this server crashers go ....
Well, I think that I am a (due to 6-year experience)'m good driver who is also a daily basis and would like to visit your server riders.
Unfortunately, I have repeatedly seen that many riders bent on (especially when starting and winding in the first!) They are not able to enter the car or in a consciously deliberate.
I think the reason it is slow to limit the time an experience of, say, 50? Incorporate ex and a limit of PB 1:14:50 to 1:15:00, so at least the greatest part of the driver is not as serious about a drive to FBM and are therefore excluded to make good times.
In my opinion, the server runs more than good, so that these limitations are no restrictions on the server utilization in the future will have.
Ok, I think I have anything to say what I had to say about it and would love it if this is implemented soon, in fact, so the fun will be better again

your RoAdRuNnEr


tnx roadrunner...we will go back on FBM like we was 2month ago...that if SAM decide it...you are right...i put some limits and some rules on FBM 3-4 month ago....the thing is if AIRIO have a colapse all servers start whit no restrictions...so...we gonna look more close on tm restriction every day...tnx for your sugestions
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 15:44

Yes, personnaly i need time limit on serveur, why? it's simple, for better race, better player.

And if you need my opignon for the time limit:

FBM#1 = 1.14.50
FBM#2 = 1.15.50
Track = 1.13.50
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 15:45

We need also server without limit. Where new racers will be able to do PB's to fit limits?

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 16:09

Vadico wrote:
Yes, personnaly i need time limit on serveur, why? it's simple, for better race, better player.

And if you need my opignon for the time limit:

FBM#1 = 1.14.50
FBM#2 = 1.15.50
Track = 1.13.50


i know you are fast,but the demo servers should be like was 2month ago and they get the higher popularity///FORMULA BMW-1:18...formula bmw2-1:22...and gptrack whitout limit...in the last month was trying a lot of new limits...dont work
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 19:34

skswat wrote:
We need also server without limit. Where new racers will be able to do PB's to fit limits?

I know exactly what you mean, however, I race FBM primarily myself and it seems that in the past few days the amount of people who are completely and utterly clueless as to how to drive safely and fairly has rocketed.

I'm thinking more about the limads/supads here as I don't think they should have to spend as much time as they do warning people/kicking/banning people while in spec. Everybody plays the game to race and sometimes its hard to get a race in sideways without having to kick or ban someone.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 19:36

Cristina Smile , me fast... i don't think so, my pb is 1.13.12, wr is 1.11.77, i think i'm slow.

And when you say: "in the last month was trying a lot of new limits...dont work" , i don't view new limits, for me it's same to the last month.

Just speak to my opignon, if you don't need try this, no problem for me, just more kick/ban when i'm connected on MRc serveur for clean this, and it's no good for team.

I'm sure you don't need crasher on MRc serveur, but with no limits... we have massive newbie/crasher/noobs and co.

@Skswat, yes you have raison, so i retire my pb limit on fbm#2 Smile, and i don't know why is GPtrack with no pb, for laps for new player... i think FBM#2 more easy for new player with 3 lap, no?

@ Edgarz, yes, i think been better to play more and less observate.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Thu 23 Feb - 21:40

i agree with swat that at least one server needs to have no limit,maybe two servers with out the limit,and roadrunner is one of the faster drivers that uses our servers and unfortuantly he gets to be on the recieving end of some of the antics of bad drivers,.also he will know that recently we have had some members that dont usually drive our servers beguin to use our servers and think it would be a good idea to show them at least some sort of protection on a pb limit server

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Fri 24 Feb - 14:08

My proposal is that the PB, EX and RT limits should be corelated and rise gradually for every server so you can move along to a better server when you as a player get better. For example:

GP Track: pb 1:16-1:17 / ex 40-50 / rt 50% (or even 45% since this is the default value when you join the server)

FBM #2: pb 1:16 / ex 100 / rt 60%

FBM #1: pb 1:14:50-1:15 / ex 120-130 / rt 65-70%

Several times I have seen players with good PB but with shitty RT and driving like idiots and that must be stopped.
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Fri 24 Feb - 14:15

This question was consulted many times in MRc.
We can do maximum one server with such a limits and I think it will full just time to time, because there is not so much drivers with all skills and stats to fit all this.

We had server like this for RallyCross.... yes, it was nice driving in there when there joined other MRc's. No crashers, good fights, etc...
But problem was, that it was maybe once per day for short time, because it was impossible to have all good drivers Online always at same time. And nobody like to drive on server with 2-3 cars.
After few days server keep empty and we used it only for events.

It all sounds nice with limits on forum, but reality is little different.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Sun 26 Feb - 22:47

with a 1.15 pb time i think that % 90 of racers with over a few weeks experience would easily gain this,as there would still be 2 servers that are available for no pb limit then surely they would then try those if maybe a notification was wrote on the welcome screen to server stating that if they werent able to join that server to then join one of other mrc servers
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Sun 26 Feb - 22:49

whateva, if Sam do it, then Im OK with that. Maybe it will works in FBM.

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Sun 26 Feb - 23:11

it may be worth a trial period where i and others monitor it very closely,like you say see what sam says m8
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 11:59

im ok for test it, what's limit you want exactly?

BMW = 1:15:00
BMW #2 = 1:18:00
GP Track = open ?

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 12:39

I would say:

BMW: 1:14:50 (get to drive around here in a BMW or BMW GP TRACK # 2 a better PB and EX) and ex 80!

BMW # 2: 1:18:00, and at least 50 ex (pass to resort to GP TRACK and then improve)

GP Track: everything here is open and you can qualify better for the other server

In addition, it would be advisable for full utilization of the server to install a PB limiter ......

It should also be CLEARLY explained in the connection window like the rules of the server, are not so clueless drivers will be kicked when you start to wonder why and



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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 12:59

RoAdRuNnEr(The Real) wrote:
I would say:

BMW: 1:14:50 (get to drive around here in a BMW or BMW GP TRACK # 2 a better PB and EX) and ex 80!

BMW # 2: 1:18:00, and at least 50 ex (pass to resort to GP TRACK and then improve)

GP Track: everything here is open and you can qualify better for the other server

In addition, it would be advisable for full utilization of the server to install a PB limiter ......

It should also be CLEARLY explained in the connection window like the rules of the server, are not so clueless drivers will be kicked when you start to wonder why and



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HI ROADRUNNER....i get some beating from the old family members,but i still put my opinion Smile

FBM was work better like was 2month ago....FORMULA1:18-FRORMULA2_1:22 AND GPTRACK-OPEN....yes...i know you are sometime frustrated from slower racers...hapens to all off us.....if IN 1 SERVER will be putted 1;14 time,server will be empty all of the time..this is why i tell some time ago why limads4 or supads,should change pb limit when they see a server is full whit good and fast servers....to bad good racers dont race all day,couse they have work,family,kids and all obligations...so....when they not racing,servers must be open for new racers,so they can practice too...

CRISTINA...YOUR FRIEND))


i tell that from experince...very fast drivers dont stay to long onj server....

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 13:21

if a 1.14 pb limit was imposed then i could see that being a problem but a 1.15 i wouldnt see as much being one,its not so much just slower racers being in the way it causes more people to fail to follow the blueflag rule and in fairness to new racers its slightly off putting seing someone rocket around the track doing 1,13s while they get 1.17s.if 2 servers were open i cant see how they still wouldnt be provided for as there would be approx 30 slots on 2 servers..the same as providing for new racers surely we should secure the loyal faster racers also if it meant one server with limit and other 2 with no limit..
at the moment people are bearing with it but it will have a negative impact soon and mean gaining new racers who use the server a few times to never be seen again and losing racers who use the servers everyday. its not really a case of unskilled racers its a case of there being a % 90 more chance that they will either block on blue flags and keep rushing at t1 and crashing
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 13:39

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if a 1.14 pb limit was imposed then i could see that being a problem but a 1.15 i wouldnt see as much being one,its not so much just slower racers being in the way it causes more people to fail to follow the blueflag rule and in fairness to new racers its slightly off putting seing someone rocket around the track doing 1,13s while they get 1.17s.if 2 servers were open i cant see how they still wouldnt be provided for as there would be approx 30 slots on 2 servers..the same as providing for new racers surely we should secure the loyal faster racers also if it meant one server with limit and other 2 with no limit..
at the moment people are bearing with it but it will have a negative impact soon and mean gaining new racers who use the server a few times to never be seen again and losing racers who use the servers everyday. its not really a case of unskilled racers its a case of there being a % 90 more chance that they will either block on blue flags and keep rushing at t1 and crashing


BISH m8....put formula on 1;17 pb limit....you will see is gonna be empty most off the time...this is a real recepy for fail to team..to put all kind of restrictions....hapens before whit all teams...FPRS,HC..AND ALL...all you need in a race is to have good limads and they will know not to brake rules,couse will be banned...that s all....and the servers will be full all the time...i toulk racers from 1;19 tm and bring them to 1;13...whit a lot of pacience ...but i just help the racers who want help and have a little brain..so...its suicide to put some crazy pb limit o fbm...you,south and any other racer can do 1;16-1_17 couse is a full race trafik or just have a slow day...that s mean he can join server?...like i said...just a humble advise...its a suicide to put so pb limit for fbm


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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 13:50

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bish wrote:
if a 1.14 pb limit was imposed then i could see that being a problem but a 1.15 i wouldnt see as much being one,its not so much just slower racers being in the way it causes more people to fail to follow the blueflag rule and in fairness to new racers its slightly off putting seing someone rocket around the track doing 1,13s while they get 1.17s.if 2 servers were open i cant see how they still wouldnt be provided for as there would be approx 30 slots on 2 servers..the same as providing for new racers surely we should secure the loyal faster racers also if it meant one server with limit and other 2 with no limit..
at the moment people are bearing with it but it will have a negative impact soon and mean gaining new racers who use the server a few times to never be seen again and losing racers who use the servers everyday. its not really a case of unskilled racers its a case of there being a % 90 more chance that they will either block on blue flags and keep rushing at t1 and crashing


BISH m8....put formula on 1;17 pb limit....you will see is gonna be empty most off the time...this is a real recepy for fail to team..to put all kind of restrictions....hapens before whit all teams...FPRS,HC..AND ALL...all you need in a race is to have good limads and they will know not to brake rules,couse will be banned...that s all....and the servers will be full all the time...i toulk racers from 1;19 tm and bring them to 1;13...whit a lot of pacience ...but i just help the racers who want help and have a little brain..so...its suicide to put some crazy pb limit o fbm...you,south and any other racer can do 1;16-1_17 couse is a full race trafik or just have a slow day...that s mean he can join server?...like i said...just a humble advise...its a suicide to put so pb limit for fbm




mmm yes good advice my love:D

and its also very rare that we hav a full server of fast racers
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 14:21

nah i disagree a lot of the time the majority of racers are faster than 1.15 pb and we wouldnt be turning away racers with less pb as there is still 2 servers with no limit..

my suggestion wouldve been

fbm server #2 1.15pb

then other 2 servers open so then there is plenty of slots for new racers

the servers that fail are ones that use restrictions on cars and thats done by saftey rating
also thats why i stated having a trial period of say a week or two so then the server can be monitored and see if any downside to it..my 10 year old son who started last week has about 1.17s pb and he uses keyboard and never played a simulator b4

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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 14:43

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nah i disagree a lot of the time the majority of racers are faster than 1.15 pb and we wouldnt be turning away racers with less pb as there is still 2 servers with no limit..

my suggestion wouldve been

fbm server #2 1.15pb

then other 2 servers open so then there is plenty of slots for new racers

the servers that fail are ones that use restrictions on cars and thats done by saftey rating
also thats why i stated having a trial period of say a week or two so then the server can be monitored and see if any downside to it..my 10 year old son who started last week has about 1.17s pb and he uses keyboard and never played a simulator b4

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SURE M8.....i was tryng that for month...but try it.put 1:15 limit on 1 server and you will see whats happen...you gonna be surprised how empty will be....FORMULA now is empty allmost the time...south and me try to atract ppl and here is 1:18 i thing...but..try it to put a pb limit less then 1;18......all racers you put there,they race like 4-5 races and they go...what after that?....1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in evening..try it for 1 week....
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PostSubject: Re: regarding saftey on servers   Mon 27 Feb - 14:47

bish wrote:
nah i disagree a lot of the time the majority of racers are faster than 1.15 pb and we wouldnt be turning away racers with less pb as there is still 2 servers with no limit..

my suggestion wouldve been

fbm server #2 1.15pb

then other 2 servers open so then there is plenty of slots for new racers

the servers that fail are ones that use restrictions on cars and thats done by saftey rating
also thats why i stated having a trial period of say a week or two so then the server can be monitored and see if any downside to it..my 10 year old son who started last week has about 1.17s pb and he uses keyboard and never played a simulator b4

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theres a few that are most likely to use servers daily that are above the 1.15 limit and usually race at the same time

ahh..didnt see that whit your son....i have all the respect for ks drivers...its the hardest way to drive...go faster son Smile
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