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PostSubject: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 16:57

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Today i was racing on MRc FBM #2 .. I get BAN from bish. I was passing him on brakes and he turned to me on the end of backstraight. Heres the replay, he banned me before checking replays or giving me space to explain it.. IMO its pretty unfair for drivers to do not give them a room for explain why he did that..
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 17:30

ok i explain here - first off you go diving into a corner in the and cause an accident it was basically the same as t1 killing , i told you not to overtake on the bend as that is what happens , you speak to someone else and said something about unable to ride and an idiot(which is ok its laughable - then in the final race what do you go and do ? the same as i told you not to do on corners. and i banned you for 24 hours for continious dangerous moves like that.



The main point is dont overtake on entry to a bend by late braking and then cutting them off

http://speedy.sh/AbsMW/BL1-race-3L-8R-6F-7.mpr

all your replay shows is you jumping in on the racing line and therefor blocking my path
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 19:12

I am racer in RL, and this was not dangerous, this was normal pass, like everyone done many times before.. about the T1 diving, its short race, you have to catch as many positions as possible in T1 if you want to win.. You said me that i should not pass like that, so can you explain me how to pass with other style? Before this i thought that demo can be good for freetime racing... But this is the reason why many poeple dont like demo servers - stupid rules, passing restrictions..
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 19:55

Sorry, whats RL?

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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 20:06

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Sorry, whats RL?
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 20:16

Puma2254 wrote:
about the T1 diving, its short race, you have to catch as many positions as possible in T1 if you want to win.. You said me that i should not pass like that, so can you explain me how to pass with other style?
That part is totaly right.
Same in rallycross. I cant be so nice that I let pass everyone... in 3 laps race is not much time to pass them all even I am faster driver. I must go into T1 agressive and try get best position to win race. Even with risk that I will push and bump other cars (not T1 kiling of course.. thats different situation). AFAIK in FBM servers are 3 or 4 laps races where 1 lap takes ~ 1:13 min. And with FBM is much harder to pass than in rallycross.
This of course would be different in 30+ laps race.

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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 20:18

Puma2254, possibly in real life, this was normal pass, but, can you imagine that style in a career filled with apprentices? obviously as you say the race is short ... very short if we all try to pass at t1, thats because we have this "stupid rules, passing restrictions..", and also I think the races are not won on the first corner.

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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 20:22

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and also I think the races are not won on the first corner.
Surprisingly, most of time it is.... when I pass T1 on 1st place its 99% that I win whole RC race

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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 20:28

Not full of noobs Very Happy that crash spin stay on the road bla bla bla. In "RL" im sure it works 99%, but we are talking about LFS Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 21:45

lol first of all you cant coompare lfs to real life because otherwise your stating your slow in rl racing also..second you had warnings and still do it..there has to be certain rules in place on the servers because we have many new racers where moves like that ruin a whole race

one single touch of cars while racing fbm can cause big problems and no disrespect but how can you call anyone noobs with such a slow personal best time.and if your on about your !ex thats not at best either

either follow procedure of things on the track or dont race,the choice is absolutly yours.ive never seen you race there before so if you think you can stick to your way of things while everyone else does different then that causes problems
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 21:48

also if your a real life racer then your at the very very start of it all as your 12 years old



http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=78993

can see on there stated and having experience in go-kaarting is a total different thing then formula racing.. different rules ect
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 22:04

bish wrote:
also if your a real life racer then your at the very very start of it all as your 12 years old



http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=78993

can see on there stated and having experience in go-kaarting is a total different thing then formula racing.. different rules ect


Thats right, but its not that different.. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 22:36

In professional real life racing, racers see a lot more that on the monitor, so it cannot be compared to this.
LFS, or all type of formula racing in FIA also has different rules than karting or other types of motorsport. The other thing is that the general rule for inside overtaking is that if you are minimum half car-length beside the racer who you want to overtake (when he pushes the brake), then the driver have to give space for you in the apex. If you are behind, you must not dive into the corner, you have to get the half car-length. Outside, its 1,5-car-length, when the other must give you space on the outside after the corner.

That incident was not a clear overtaking, it seemed like T1-killing, with that very-late braking it was inpossible to take that corner normally, even if there would be no other drivers.
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 22:57

hmm, I will surprised if 12 years old boy will translate well this FIA rules in english. Me in 12 years didnt speak english at all. Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 23:26

skswat wrote:
hmm, I will surprised if 12 years old boy will translate well this FIA rules in english. Me in 12 years didnt speak english at all. Laughing Laughing
Maybe bit surprise, i can... Smile I dont want to be here for a noob.. Admin is always right,we all know.. so you can close it and sorry all for wasted time..
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sat 16 Jun - 23:35

Sry to but in but AFAIK the therm "professional" is applied when u do sth ,in this particular case car racing, for a living aka profession...

Other than that minor ( pun intended ) clarification that im sure no one but the OP seems to need one thing i cant be tired of saying is that not all can pass tru T1 AT THE SAME TIME as usually one see on FBM and the bumping , pushing , having to change lines not to hit some1 that is too late on the braking most of the times = slamming our car into some1 else's or making someone else change is line abruptly slamming into others just because some1 think they will actually win an effing cup at the end and spray with champagne the lovely ladies @ the podium .. so lets all break late on T1 and see who's left standing.. i <3 this line of thought.. as usually its the ones that release the gas right after the start and let the mob pass and crash @ t1 and just need to zig zag tru the debris after.

Wile i know i don't have half of the experience as the lot of you its sth it doesn't take much of grey matter to think after some races specially on the GP server .

Hence having moved to MRc rally racing for a wile now due to the fact one can control the bumps and pushing in a more orderly fashion as one can control the car better and its not that often that we loose it and get slammed on a wall due to some Senna wannaB breaking late cause he has a cup to win..

Bottom line , if one has been warned , either plays by the rules or gets the boot from time to time , it could also be told that unfair is having admins talking and having ppl cba on what they say so its the circle of life as the wise Timon stated once o/
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PostSubject: Re: Unfair BAN   Sun 17 Jun - 7:39

some good summarys there and id like to say that we have a different goal in a race-i always give way when im meant to and others should do the same- after me warning you for bad driving you said to schumi about me telling you how to drive - ive done over 20000 laps on bl1 fbm in about 6months and have veteran c experience and 99% saftey rating and am an admin/supad so with all that together yes i have the job to judge and warn people if ruining the race for others.

maybe its the only way someone with high 1.14s pb is going to win head to head with drivers capable of 1.12s but if you would also do that i RL then dont expect a long carreer

Like i said on the server after the first time all i ask for is too be careful

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