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PostSubject: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sat 26 May - 19:30

hi everyone. has been a while that this idea cross my mind , but didnt dare to share it :)im thinking about a new server , a server where the best and high experienced drivers can come and enjoy a good quality race...

the server , the way i see it , should not have less than 20 laps/race.

i mean after all this is the F1. not fast winning after 3 laps , but instead work hard for that No.1 place.

the server should have different points system , ( more points for complete race ) cause running 20 laps or more need's some reward Smile

i wait your opinions, but please don't think negative about this idea for ex. THE SERVER WILL BE EMPTY !!!

I really don't think such a server will be empty, because out there are many many racing freakz Smile that will love a long race Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sat 26 May - 19:53

the 20 laps idea very good m8 it will be nice that u will feel like ur in a real race and pits stops stuff like that i agree and also lock server too good idea

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sat 26 May - 22:59

Yeap that´s a good idea... why not?

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sat 26 May - 23:04

thank you for your support mate Smile hope that many others will agree and maybe someday my dream will become reality i really believe in this idea as it's something very different from other LFS server's .



EDIT : muchas gracias OUTLAW Smile lo siento pero no he visto tu comentario. un saludo
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 8:22

Well a couple of things is and im sorry to say it but the only way that it would be able to work is if mid race joining was turned off to start - also a 20 lap race is like an event race length and trust me on this because ive raced a 20lap bl1 and after one race it tires you out.i guarantee that people wouldnt stay there racing 20 laps then another 20 lap race

I guarantee this from experience - also that would create extra work when everyone could spend that time cleaning up the other servers or racing on them,

The main problem which i see is that you stay on gp track which is more used by new racers while the more experienced mostly use the formula bmw or formula bmw 2 server if we are on there..

i think the effort should instead be put into what we currently have and not creating a safe haven where some can go and get away from sharing the task of looking after the other servers - there would be no point in have people as limads or admins if they are not actually going to admin the servers
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 11:15

well what can i say , you ruined my morning...

but you are right after all Smile only that if you look closer some of our limads play very often on other servers, which wont help improve nothing...

but anyway i was very curious if that idea would have any chance to become reality... seem's not.

if you could just visit more often GP TRACK , you will notice that we also have very good and fast/safe players that love 4 laps race. its true that many new players come there and cause problems, and that only happend's because we ask for a !pb/!ex limit which we don't have...

ive really put a lot of time and work on GP TRACK but at a momment i think i was the only one that really stay's there and fight with new players/crashers... then ive had a period when i was very busy at my work, and didnt have time to keep on my work... the point is ???::: someone actually see that?? someone actualy see all my work there??

and i believe the answer is no, or that nobody really cares, (its a game after all right? )

at the momment i see TomTom is there all day, and really hope that at least his work will be apreciated the way it need's to be.



anyway im sorry for sharing my idea with you guys... im really sorry now...
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 11:48

Hi guys.....

I think that the idea from exe is good !

I only (mostly) are on GP server hole day !

3 laps are to short for me (and Im not alone)...so I prefere 4 laps.....

So why not make a test as EXE says ?

If we have a 15 or 20 lap server with 2 boxstops , the racers have also more chances...

if they make mistakes to get in front again..because others also make mistakes or

accidends! I think there would be cool fieghts .

Atleast we would need a time limit from mabe 1.18...to get the worse crashers out !

If we dont have a server left for that , I would pay for a new one...np.

I wanted to do this also at the past when I raced AA.

EQ didnt want it,because he was afraid sever would stay empty.

But what have we to loose ? As I say lets try and Il pay for that server !

Im shure a lot of guys from other servers will change to us,because they love it !

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 13:08

trust me on this please - think about the following points -

- most people like to join a server and not have to wait long for a chance to start in a race from the beguinning-

- just say someone stays and does 2 full races at most because it is pretty draining mentally -

- people would race for so many laps then realise they have no chance of winning and quit because they dont want to wait 30 minutes for next race

- if only allowing faster racers (depending on what pb chosen) that would cut the amount of possible racers also it wouldnt be resolving any current problems it would just be shifting them on

@exe ive seen the good work you do- but on fbm server we have exactly the same problems- if im on formula bmw i check on the other servers through lfsremote and thats why as tomtom would of seen i can all of a sudden say hello through it

It sounds a good idea but i dont think it would be wise to have it constantly set to it- maybe it would be good to have it like that on a certain day of the week or day of weekend -

- ive seen a 1.16 pb limit make a server only be used for half the amount of time but when it is used it is appreciated by them for being able to race at times with some peace

I personally wouldnt want too cut a server off from new racers with it being one they all seem to go to , but if its ok with sam and swat i would do a test server hosted by me with free version of airio but with the MRc name or possibly if the fbx server is not used much then probably assign that to be used for a day with them settings
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 13:14

ok here is my cents worth

15-20 is a long race start at 5 laps see how it goes? 15-20 lap = alot of blue flags and being this long i would not heed the blue flag they will have to pass me as regular race i would not just pull over! if they faster i would give them the line to pass! RT will need ajustment where blue flag will not hurt RT!

MRc need to dedicate server for the needs of all:

FBX = Noob-but this a prob noob dont know about 20% restriction

GP formula for TomTom= please try this( set this server with 70% RT if below cant race all crashers dont care about this stat so this is why you use it if they want to race there they have to maintain this RT of 70% it does make racers think about how they drive and to becarefull = less bans and less kicks and less watching others and lets admin race they disserve a place where they can race and not have to work as hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!

formula BMW leave wide open for noobs

BMW #2 now this has PB lock @ 1.16 but not as populated at times??? why??? because to much trouble on other servers ??admins to busy at other server?? maybe try 80% rt lock instead of PB just a thought fast racers are fast but some are agressive to aggresive this would add another aspect on things PB lock and RT lock the best of the best to have good racing but not to many out there= empty

this is just the Goats thoughts on this but please try this for TomTom on GP server to much time cleaning house on this server i think the RT will work

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 13:41

Yes good idea mate !

But the ADMINS must diside this !

I cant make any settings anyway...and I would never do it !

This is thing of ADMINS !

But atleast mabe ADMINS could give the feature free for limads 2..and upper...

EQ did that at AA.

So limads could set a time limit in case server is full of crashers for some minuts....

(we allways took 1.18)..so the worse guys leave by themselfs because they couldf not race....

We didnt need to kick/ban them.

After some min. we opened server again.

Its a nightmare to have these guys with 1.32..and more pb on server....

Mostly they have many laps but u can forget them...only destroying races...!

One thing more !

Last days we had great racers on server!!!

They just left after some races and changed server !

Most command of them:....Impossible to drive here !

Think about it !


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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 13:53


I know i just parachuted here out of nowhere but been somewhat regular on the MRc servers since when started on LFS ( fairly a week ago ^^ ) and the reason i keep coming to your Hosted/Managed servers is the way u ppl handle problematic racers and try to keep it as clean as possible to allow for races reach the end in orderly manner .

Not so long ago i asked Tom about the possibility of an event being created using the FBM cars , same track , same rules and he pointed me to the !event ,oval racing i believe, MRc hosts but since myself and im guessing 60%++ of the ppl on the servers are Demo racers said track is unavailable to us, the point of convergence could be reserve a day/afternoon ( whatever u guys deem fair ) to hold said 20 laps events and issue a Rate lock making all that participate crash/bump/block free historically and would give the lot of us something to strive for during the week AKA keep our racing as clean as possible wile still trying to push for better Pb's and work to achieve the defined % of safety to be allowed to participate on the event when its held.

What pops to mind is that too many laps will wear ppl off and knowing no1 asked for it id still like to say that a 10 laps race with 1 stop or more might manage to retain ppl's attention long enough to stay for a second or even 3rd race but the number of laps could be adjusted on the fly after ppl actually do the race and share points of view about it, other than that id say it would be a welcomed change to the 3/4 laps races and if not on a new server its something that could take the shape of an event and be held every X days.
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 13:56

ok m8 but there are some good racers out there that are safe but not fast no need in penalizeing these raceers if i drive 1.20 pb with safety rating at 82% i cant race this makes no sense if anyone can drive 1.20 and have RT 82 i would want them to be able to race this says something about a racer and how they act around all conditions in a race

this is my point



PB - dosnt define a racer

RT - says the most to me about a racer
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 14:12

FSP_

Yes your rieght..forgot this.....

But..; If a guy gots over 80 RT and over 300...400 laps and still has pb from 1.20...

than he better delete this game...........


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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 14:18

MrcTomTom wrote:
FSP_

Yes your rieght..forgot this.....

But..; If a guy gots over 80 RT and over 300...400 laps and still has pb from 1.20...

than he better delete this game...........


but with help and guidence if asked we would help them

plus this was just a example in making a point lol!



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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 14:24

well i agree with most of guys here why dont we give a try and see whats happen i think alots of players love to race for long laps but as bish said it might be a problem if a racers join in mid race and he has to wait all this time then he will get bored so i say why we decrease the laps instead of 20 make it 10 lap servers i think it seems good 10 laps with two pit stops so players dont get bored and sam time enjoy racing long laps and name it > MRc League servee< Very Happy and aslo put pb time and rate so i think alots of players will love it espically the good players so why dont we give it a try for me i will love it will be good Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 14:37

i must say a PB lock eliminates alot of good drivers out there

good drivers = will let faster racers pass + leave and give room when racing side by side + acknowledges blue flags + has respect for all and consideration for fellow racers + good mind set + admits to mistakes and is sorry ect they might not be fast but they are on there way to being fast = good compition
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 15:05

ok m8 but how do u gonna know good drivers from bad ones , because we need to prevent any crashes we dont need crashes at all because if som1 is in the lap 6 and then som1 crash him he will lose race then get bored for playing all this laps and then some stupid crasher destroy his race if this happens alot players will get bored .

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 15:15


Regarding the point were ppl might not have patience to wait for the race to be over one thing can be said, if your safety % is fairly high = you are a patient person to start with so waiting for a 10 lap race to be over might not be that big of a thing as in order to achieve and maintain a goo safety rate we need to exercise patience towards all aspects of the game ( slower drivers, conflicting lines , the works.. ) every time we put our tires on the tarmac .

On the plus side by having a min PB issued along side with a good safety rate will ensure that the races will not be longer than X minutes on average so one might say that a min 1.18 + pit stops might take 12mins to end, on that time any1 that doesn't want to spectate might jump to the other MRc servers for a few laps and come back or stay tuned in and see art being made in the form of a clean race and good passes all around .

I know in order to succeed everything must be thought of, but u guys could issue a trial period for this format and see how it goes, either as an event or on a low population server for a few days then make changes to suit most ppl if needed and have a tangible proof that it either works or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 15:31

there might be a solution with the help of 2 teams working together for testing?
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 19:00

the thing is that there is hundreds times more new racers than there is fast racer - also this would not be solving the issues that are mentioned it only moves them to another of our servers and ive spent more time admining them and getting rid of crashers than u could ever believe-at times ive been on the servers all day and night with the exception of a few breaks(so approx 14+ hours) and i dont think shifting them to formula bmw is going to help matters but only then kill that server off - which is more popular with the safer racers at the moment
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Sun 27 May - 23:18

So right Now MRc has 4 servers dedicated to FBM correct?

well just a thought:

a level type system for each as so a progression as you get better? 1-4 as you go up the stricter the setting like PB RT EX
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Mon 28 May - 9:42


As FSP_70GTO said and on a personal note i see the FORMULA BMW #2 server as the top of the FBM food chain and the server to strive for but its something ive set my mind on trying to achieve and nth "enforced" by any rules being that the only variable at work there is a min 1.16 PB so ppl might ( and im sure most do ) jump on that server as soon as they hit that mark but truth be told most if not every regular there makes the track in 1.12/.13 on a bad day so having ppl on .16 taking their car for a spin is in fact slowing the faster ppl down to a certain degree.

Placing a PB lock like that across the 4 servers will make the climb a gradual thing and in essence make the higher locks safer to race for everyone on that server leaving the "mayhem" to one single server as most of the crashers and the likes of them as busy as they are trying to ruin it for every1 wont have the PB requirements to enter the other servers so its really a win-win situation for MRc even if the decision is not to place any pb req's ( or a small dif between them ) on two of those four servers , as as u say there's more new drivers than good/fast ones by the day ,the other two servers will always be a safe haven for good/faster drivers.

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Mon 28 May - 13:26

level #1 = wide open no restrictions? + FBX is good car to learn with + keep reducing restrictions 20-15-10-5-0 till full blown

level #2 = RT = set to 10-20 above first time user RT for MRc servers (to let drivers know i must becarfull or back #1)

level #3 = RT & PB?? need good all around avg here avg?

level #4 = RT & PB & EX = much more strict??

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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Mon 28 May - 15:30

we have formula bmw server and then formula bmw 2 server and Gp track Bmw- also fbx server

We have a server which has restrictions on so to give a place that would give people somewhere to race in relativeness peace - fbm server 2 - but after the restrictions were put on there - its used a little less then previously

Believe me in that the main part of the problems seen on the servers at this moment has to be dealt with directly and not shunned on to one server- think how many people would be put off altogether if they had to just go onto a server thats guaranteed to get them crashed.

What it takes is someone to activly admin servers like i do - i dont race as much and look out for potential problems then when everything quitens down i then race.

What is needed is one of two things

1. We work out a action plan for admins/limads on watching servers - so for example if members A + B are on the server then why not take it in turns racing while other watches out and if quite then both race

2, Ive noticed that we have members of medium limad who never investigate someones compaint after the race and only intervene in a incident if they are directly affected



As i say it is not big changes like is being suggested thats needed its stricter adminning and determination- and finallly i know if instead of racing on gp track try one of the formula bmw servers and you would see how much things are different on there
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PostSubject: Re: Idea for new SERVER !!!    Mon 28 May - 22:40

soo guys??? after 2 pages do we have a conclusion???

this idea will have a chance to see the light?

@ Bish maybe we can begin with an event and see what people say about this, and also how many racers this event will have... what do you say??

i wish that Sam join to this disscusion, and share his opinion, i really wish that
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